Home ] Up ] Seen Any Good Cosmodynes Lately? ] Cosmodynes - Background ] [ Using Cosmodynes to Understand Relationships ]

Using Cosmodynes to Understand Relationships

 

    If you haven't read the first two articles in my cosmodyne series (article 1 and article 2), please consider reading them first. They will give you the background you need on cosmodynes in order to better utilize the information presented here.

    Have you ever seen two charts displayed together in a bi-wheel and thought about having a quick way to gauge the compatibility between the two people represented? I will try to enlighten you on a technique that just might be able to help you. The technique I want to share with you is DUAL COSMODYNES.

    Cosmodynes, also called astrodynes, are an astrological measure of strength and harmony. The original techniques were developed in 1946 by Elbert Benjamine (aka C.C. Zain) of the Church of Light in Los Angeles and W.M.A. Drake. The methods used to calculate astrodynes have been published in several books. The Church of Light has published their "Course XVI, Stellar Healing" book and Elbert Benjamine's "The Astrodyne Manual". The AFA has published Doris Chase Doane's "How To Read Cosmodynes" and Ken Stone's "Delineation with Astrodynes". This last book gives perhaps more interpretation of the various astrodynes than any of the other books mentioned.

    I have taken the basic principles behind cosmodynes and developed my own system of relationship analysis called dual cosmodynes. To make a long story short, I reasoned that if cosmodynes showed me the real strength and harmony or discord in my own chart, then why can't they show the strength and harmony and discord between pairs of people? Why can't the same principles be used to analyze the compatibilities (or lack thereof) between two people in a relationship? The dual cosmodyne technique tries to gauge the strength and harmony or discord between the planets in one chart and how they affect the planets in another chart. Energy is energy. You have yours and I have mine. How do our energies combine and/or conflict when mixed together? How can they be measured?

    Below is an excerpt of a sample listing of the dual cosmodynes between my first wife and me from my program called MatchMkr, or better yet, my Astro123 program, which you can download from my website. Interaspects between the three outer planets are not considered as Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto are not personal planets.

                 Allen                         First wife
                 Power          Harmony        Power          Harmony
     SUN         22.96 ( 9)      12.98 ( 4)    28.64 ( 8)       7.22 ( 4)
     MERCURY     45.07 ( 3)      -5.73 ( 9)    33.48 ( 5)       1.27 ( 5)
     VENUS       51.29 ( 1)      29.73 ( 2)    35.74 ( 4)      39.46 ( 1)
     MARS        41.39 ( 5)     -29.55 (11)    38.38 ( 3)      -6.33 (10)
     JUPITER     49.03 ( 2)      34.90 ( 1)    51.40 ( 2)      18.43 ( 2)
     SATURN      29.48 ( 6)       3.70 ( 5)    32.87 ( 6)     -17.60 (11)
     URANUS      20.10 (10)      -2.04 ( 8)    16.97 (10)      -3.29 ( 8)
     NEPTUNE      7.80 (11)      -0.07 ( 6)    19.63 ( 9)      -3.32 ( 9)
     PLUTO       24.06 ( 8)      -9.00 (10)    11.46 (11)      -0.07 ( 6)
     MOON        25.35 ( 7)      -1.13 ( 7)    63.67 ( 1)      -1.32 ( 7)
     ASC         44.54 ( 4)      14.17 ( 3)    28.84 ( 7)      13.52 ( 3)
     ------     ------          ------         ------          ------
     TOTALS     361.07           47.97        361.07           47.97

     Power*Harmony =    2506.53                       1969.18


     Mutual Receptions (harmonies reflected in table above)
     Allen     First wife
     SUN       MERCURY
     MOON      VENUS

    This table shows how each of our planets is affected by the other's planets. The numbers in the parentheses are the overall rank of power or harmony for each planet. A negative number in the Harmony column represents Discord. Notice that overall her planets bring out a +47.97 harmony in me and my planets bring out a +47.97 harmony in her (I have seen harmony and discord between two people range from +200 to -175. Imagine trying to live with another person you have -175 with!). The harmonies for the individual planets vary, but the sum has to be the same. My effect on her is the same effect as her effect on me, in the aggregate. But notice that my planets bring out the most discord in her Saturn energies. Her planets bring the most discord in me through my Mars' energies. Yet we each bring out strong harmony in each other's Venus (the love nature, affections, etc.). Our Jupiters are harmonious as well (we just like each other, trust each other, and believe we are good for each other and the other is good for us).

    The Power*Harmony numbers show how each of us is affected by multiplying each of the power numbers by each of the harmony/discord numbers and summing them. Sometimes one person can be much more harmonious in the relationship than the other. I believe this sum may show that factor.

    Mutual receptions are important I think as they bring a way out of difficulty, they allow the couple to find common ground. We have two mutual receptions between us. I have seen as many as 6 between other couples. Each mutual reception has added 5 points of harmony into the harmony totals.

    So who loves whom more? I believe I loved her more as my Venus has more power than hers (she brings out more of the love nature in me than I do in her). Yet I think she felt it more as her Venus has more harmony than mine. Think of other ways to look at the things here presented. Perhaps other meaning is evident to you.

     Important Factors In Synastry (11 total):
(mutual receptions not included in harmony column)

     Allen    First wife   Power     Harmony
     SUN       VENUS        7.23       9.04
     SUN       MOON         0.61      -0.61
     MERCURY   MERCURY      6.45       6.45
     VENUS     MARS        19.00       0.00
     VENUS     MOON        14.54      10.91
     MARS      VENUS        0.90       0.00
     MOON      VENUS        4.66       5.83
     ASC       ASC          7.64       7.64

    This table shows the 11 most important factors in synastry analysis. Notice that we shared 8 out of the 11 factors. And observe that only one is discordant (-0.61, hardly discordant at all). Did we get along? You bet! We could always talk and relate to each other (harmonious Mercurys). We had real love (Sun/Moon and Venus connections) and a spiritual connection (Sun and Moon connection). We also had sexual sparks (Mars and Venus connections as well as the Asc/Asc connection). We had a lot going for us. So what was our trouble? We got married too young and didn't have the emotional development to stick out the tough times, which always occur at certain times. But basic compatibility was there.

     Planets Aspecting Each Other Within 1 Degree:
(mutual receptions not included in harmony column)

     Allen     First wife  Power     Harmony
     SUN       VENUS        7.23       9.04
     MERCURY   MERCURY      6.45       6.45
     MERCURY   NEPTUNE     13.00       0.00
     VENUS     SATURN       0.81       0.60
     VENUS     MOON        14.54      10.91
     MARS      SATURN       4.55       1.14
     MARS      MOON        20.68     -16.46
     JUPITER   SUN         14.48       7.24
     URANUS    MERCURY      4.68      -4.68
     MOON      JUPITER      5.31      -2.66

    This table shows the planets that are within one degree orb of exact aspect to each other. These "connections", especially conjunctions, are the nails that tend to hold people together. As you can see, there was plenty of glue. But no amount of glue can keep two people together who decide they need to go their separate ways, for whatever reason. When two people just give up, no astrology in the world can overcome that. It takes the will of the two people involved to rule their stars.

    Notice one big problem area - my Mars brought out discordant Moon energies in her and her Moon brought out discordant Mars energies in me (my Mars square her Moon). Did we have energy (lots of power there)? Did we have anger (lots of discord present)? Did we have passion? Indeed! But we needed to learn how to control it better. That is the message of discordant energies. It tells you what you should work on most. 

 

Planets down left edge are Allen's planets.
Planets across the top are First wife's planets.

POWER   Sun    Mer    Ven    Mar    Jup    Sat    Ura    Nep    Plu    Moo    Asc
Sun    1.55   0.79   7.23   0.02   4.12   5.12   ----   ----   0.03   0.61   3.48 
Mer    6.11   6.45   0.43   ----   0.22   3.22   5.76  13.00   5.70   ----   4.18 
Ven    ----   ----   ----  19.00  16.29   0.81   0.65   ----   ----  14.54   ---- 
Mar    ----   3.12   0.90   8.70   3.45   4.55   ----   ----   ----  20.68   ---- 
Jup   14.48   ----  10.37   ----   3.85   ----   3.80   6.63   ----   ----   9.91 
Sat    0.78   ----   3.54   3.25   5.89   0.11   4.35   ----   ----   8.85   2.71 
Ura    ----   4.68   ----   6.51   1.35   3.65   ----   ----   ----   3.91   ---- 
Nep    ----   1.80   ----   ----   1.13   4.87   ----   ----   ----   ----   ---- 
Plu    ----  10.91   ----   0.90   8.76   ----   ----   ----   ----   3.49   ---- 
Moo    ----   3.36   4.66   ----   5.31   8.50   ----   ----   2.60   ----   0.91 
Asc    5.71   2.37   8.61   ----   1.04   2.04   2.42   ----   3.13  11.58   7.64 

HARMONY Sun    Mer    Ven    Mar    Jup    Sat    Ura    Nep    Plu    Moo    Asc
Sun    1.55   4.21   9.04  -0.03  -2.06  -2.56   ----   ----  -0.03  -0.61   3.48 
Mer   -6.11   6.45  -0.32   ----   0.11  -1.61  -5.76   ----    5.70  ----  -4.18 
Ven    ----   ----   ----   ----  17.41   0.60   0.81   ----   ----  10.91   ---- 
Mar    ----  -0.78   ---- -10.87  -2.59   1.14   ----   ----   ---- -16.46   ---- 
Jup    7.24   ----  13.58   ----   5.77   ----   1.90  -3.32  ----    ----   9.73 
Sat   -1.17   ----  -4.42   0.81   5.89   0.05   2.17   ----   ----   4.42  -4.07 
Ura    ----  -4.68   ----   4.88  -0.68  -5.48   ----   ----   ----   3.91   ---- 
Nep    ----   1.80   ----   ----   0.56  -2.44   ----   ----   ----   ----   ---- 
Plu    ----   ----   ----  -1.12  -4.38   ----   ----   ----   ----  -3.49   ---- 
Moo    ----  -3.36  10.83   ----  -2.66  -4.25   ----   ----  -2.60   ----   0.91 
Asc    5.71  -2.37  10.76   ----   1.04  -3.06  -2.42   ----  -3.13   ----   7.64 

    This table gives a planet by planet summary of the power and harmony/discord between each of our planets. At a glance you can see where the most energy is and where the most harmony and discord are. You still aren;t convinced we were a great match for each other? Look at the harmonies between all the "good" planets.

My Sun and her Venus    +9.04
My Venus and her Jupiter    +17.41
My Venus and her Moon    +10.91
My Jupiter and her Sun    +7.24
My Jupiter and her Venus    +13.58
My Jupiter and her Jupiter    +5.77
My Jupiter and her Asc    +9.73
My Moon and her Venus    +10.83
My Asc and her Venus    +10.76
My Asc and her Asc    +7.64

    But also look at our trouble areas:

My Mars and her Mars    -10.87
My Mars and her Moon    -16.46
My Mercury and her Sun    -6.11

    Do you and your loved one stack up as well? Or better?

    Interesting, right?

    Below is the dual cosmodyne analysis for me and my second wife. We were much less compatible then me and my first wife. Can you see why this is true? If not, then please study the ideas presented more closely.

 

                 Allen                         Second wife
                 Power          Harmony        Power          Harmony
     SUN         43.46 ( 4)     -13.35 (10)    52.12 ( 1)     -20.03 (10)
     MERCURY     51.86 ( 2)      10.10 ( 2)    46.40 ( 2)       1.21 ( 5)
     VENUS       16.01 (10)       9.37 ( 3)    37.72 ( 5)       3.56 ( 4)
     MARS        10.98 (11)      -3.89 ( 6)    29.11 ( 8)      -1.61 ( 8)
     JUPITER     26.93 ( 7)      10.26 ( 1)    29.47 ( 7)      11.17 ( 2)
     SATURN      21.84 ( 8)       9.16 ( 4)    45.22 ( 3)     -31.53 (11)
     URANUS      45.77 ( 3)       3.65 ( 5)    19.32 ( 9)      -1.13 ( 7)
     NEPTUNE     20.04 ( 9)      -7.04 ( 8)    17.63 (10)      -2.47 ( 9)
     PLUTO       29.48 ( 6)      -5.37 ( 7)    13.33 (11)       0.19 ( 6)
     MOON        57.01 ( 1)     -21.83 (11)    35.21 ( 6)      14.71 ( 1)
     ASC         42.18 ( 5)      -8.50 ( 9)    40.02 ( 4)       8.49 ( 3)
     ------     ------          ------         ------          ------
     TOTALS     365.55          -17.43        365.55          -17.43

     Power*Harmony =   -1207.98                       -1202.07

     Mutual Receptions (harmonies reflected in table above)
     Allen     Second wife
     MARS      SUN
     SATURN    MERCURY
     URANUS    MOON

    We fought like cats and dogs, arguing over everything, usually about the tiniest, silliest things. We both wanted to wear the pants in the family at the same time (both Suns discordant). There was rarely any cooperation, only competition. From the looks of the Power*Harmony totals, we were equally miserable. Here are more numbers:

     Important Factors In Synastry (11 total):
(mutual receptions not included in harmony column)

     Allen    Second wife  Power     Harmony
     SUN       VENUS        0.68      -0.51
     SUN       MOON         3.09      -3.09
     MERCURY   MERCURY      9.18      -9.18
     VENUS     MARS         2.94      -2.94
     VENUS     MOON         2.02      -1.51
     MARS      VENUS        1.01       0.00
     MOON      SUN         11.15     -11.15
     MOON      VENUS        3.25      -2.43
     MOON      MOON         0.52      -0.52
     ASC       ASC         21.58       0.00

    Ten out of the eleven factors are present. But there are none that are harmonious. And only two are flat neutral. So plenty of attraction, but plenty of discord as well. No harmony on the spiritual plane (Sun/Moon), the mental plane (Mercury/Mercury), the emotional plane (Sun/Moon with Venus), the physical plane (Mars/Venus and Asc/Asc).

 

     Planets Aspecting Each Other Within 1 Degree:
(mutual receptions not included in harmony column)

     Allen    Second wife  Power     Harmony
     MERCURY   MERCURY      9.18      -9.18
     MERCURY   JUPITER     13.04       2.34
     MERCURY   NEPTUNE     12.69       0.00
     MERCURY   PLUTO        6.37       6.37
     MARS      VENUS        1.01       0.00
     PLUTO     MERCURY      8.78       0.00
     PLUTO     VENUS        0.62       0.00
     PLUTO     SATURN       4.53      -6.80
     MOON      SUN         11.15     -11.15
     MOON      SATURN      18.41      -9.21
     ASC       ASC         21.58       0.00

    Amongst the planets aspecting each other within one degree there is plenty of power, but where's the harmony (Mercury and Jupiter/Pluto is all)? Especially with the personal love planets, Sun, Moon, Venus, and Jupiter? Not a pretty picture is it? Why did we get married? It seemed like a good thing to do at the time. That plus hormones. You know how that goes, right? Fate? Yes, definitely. Her Saturn was conjunct my Sun/Moon. I felt like I was in prison and I made her very insecure.

    Here are the major harmonies between our planets. Note the lack of interaction between "good" (and personal - Mercury is neutral) planets. Maybe we should we been business partners who just shared sex.

My Sun and her Asc    6.49
My Mercury and her Pluto    +6.37
My Mercury and her Moon    +10.57
My Venus and her Venus    +5.94
My Venus and her Uranus    +7.88
My Mars and her Sun    +5.00
My Jupiter and her Mercury    +8.75
My Saturn and her Mercury    +6.96
My Saturn and her Venus    +6.41   (longevity, even though unhappy?)
My Uranus and her Jupiter    +9.47
My Uranus and her Moon    +5.00
My Neptune and her Moon    +5.92
My Pluto and her Moon    +5.03
My Moon and her Mars    +5.67

    But also look at our trouble areas, especially noting the Sun and Moon afflictions:

My Sun and her Sun    -10.28
My Sun and her Saturn    -6.30
My Mercury and her Mercury    -9.18
My Mars and her Mars    -5.97
My Saturn and her Moon    -5.52
My Uranus and her Saturn    -10.69
My Neptune and her Mercury    -6.16
My Pluto and her Saturn    -6.80
My Moon and her Sun    -11.15
My Moon and her Saturn    -9.21
My Moon and her Uranus    -6.19

    Well, what do you think? Perhaps you see other things that I haven't covered. Go ahead, experiment. Let me know of your conclusions.

    Just to share with you one more example before you go off and try all your charts and see the results, my parents were married for 49 years before my Mom, a Scorpio, passed away in 1995 (Dad, a Taurus, passed in 1997). Here is the summary of the dual cosmodynes between my parents. I should be so lucky, eh? They had persistence, among other things.

                 Dad                           Mom
                 Power          Harmony        Power          Harmony
     SUN         77.41 ( 2)       6.22 ( 5)   116.43 ( 1)      23.36 ( 1)
     MERCURY     71.65 ( 3)      -7.22 ( 9)    78.29 ( 2)       9.95 ( 4)
     VENUS       66.26 ( 4)      21.28 ( 2)    25.57 ( 7)       6.90 ( 5)
     MARS        18.61 (11)       8.88 ( 4)    63.45 ( 3)      -4.71 ( 9)
     JUPITER     93.91 ( 1)      52.40 ( 1)    21.93 (10)      16.90 ( 3)
     SATURN      33.08 ( 7)      -1.65 ( 7)    46.10 ( 5)      19.44 ( 2)
     URANUS      33.22 ( 6)     -20.23 (11)    17.46 (11)      -8.14 (11)
     NEPTUNE     27.97 ( 8)       0.41 ( 6)    22.77 ( 9)      -3.90 ( 8)
     PLUTO       27.86 ( 9)     -11.60 (10)    25.35 ( 8)      -4.98 (10)
     MOON        40.89 ( 5)       9.25 ( 3)    48.13 ( 4)      -3.49 ( 7)
     ASC         19.87 (10)      -2.91 ( 8)    45.23 ( 6)       3.49 ( 6)
     ------     ------          ------         ------          ------
     TOTALS     510.73           54.82        510.73           54.82

     Power*Harmony =    5741.67                        4276.36

     Mutual Receptions (harmonies reflected in table above)
     Dad       Mom
     MERCURY   MOON
     MARS      VENUS
     SATURN    MOON

    Even though my Mom and Dad had a harmony not that much different than me and my first wife, notice that their Power*Harmony numbers are much greater. This suggests that their strongest planets were also their most harmonious planets, plus they had more aspects (nails) between their charts, or at least more exact aspects. This I think is significant.

    Dad sure brought out my Mom's Sun energies, and with a great deal of harmony, too. And she brought out his Jupiter - both power and harmony. But he tripped her Mars energies and she tripped his Saturn, Uranus, and Pluto energies. In other words, the above summary table seems to be able to tell you which energies in one person are the most likely to be set off positively or negatively by the energies in the other person. It would appear that my Dad's Uranian energies tended to come out negatively because of my Mom's presence. Likewise, it appears that my Mom's affection (Venus), self-expression (Sun) and sense of security (Saturn) finds positive expression because of my Dad's influence. I remember her telling me once that when she married my Dad she didn't know whether she loved him or not, but she absolutely knew she could grow with him. Well, with the power and positive harmony and the 49 years between them, there must have been quite a bit of love there as well as growth. And my own experience with them seems to confirm that.

 

     Important Factors In Synastry (11 total):
(mutual receptions not included in harmony column)

     Dad       Mom         Power     Harmony
     SUN       VENUS        1.40      -1.05
     SUN       MOON         5.64      -5.64
     MERCURY   MERCURY      7.37       0.00
     VENUS     SUN         20.32      12.09
     VENUS     MARS         8.08       8.08
     VENUS     MOON         7.89      -5.91
     MARS      VENUS        5.88       5.88
     MOON      SUN         12.31       5.09
     MOON      VENUS        1.73       2.16
     MOON      MOON         2.23       2.23

    Look at that Venus/Sun power and harmony (pure love), also the Moon/Sun power (spiritual connection). 

 

    Well, that gives you a bit of an idea of what dual cosmodynes are all about and how they might be very useful in helping you determine a couple's compatibility or lack thereof. Of course, I'm still somewhat skeptical that just one technique can give ALL the answers to every situation, but I believe dual cosmodynes can be a very useful tool in our individual toolboxes to help us unravel the mystery and message of the stars.

    Oh, and just for the record, my MatchMkr program now has the capability of calculating composite chart cosmodynes (and much more). My early investigation into this does not show that cosmodynes done on a composite chart give much indication at all of compatibility. Interesting, no? But I suggest that more study needs to be done before accepting that statement as gospel. Good luck in your research.

 

References and Bibliography
-----------------------------------------------
1. BENJAMINE, Elbert - Astrodyne Manual. Church of Light, Los Angeles, CA, 1950.

2. DOANE, Doris Chase - Astrology - 30 Years Research. AFA, Inc., Tempe, AZ, 1956. ISBN 0-86690-070-5.

3. DOANE, Doris Chase - How To Read Cosmodynes. AFA, Inc., Tempe, AZ, 1974. ISBN 0-86690-073-X.

4. STONE, Ken - Delineation With Astrodynes. AFA, Inc., Tempe, AZ, 1972, 1981. ISBN 0-86690-002-0.

5. ZAIN, C.C. - Course 16, Stellar Healing - Astrological Predisposition, Diagnosis and Treatment of Disease. Church of Light, Los Angeles, CA, 1947 and 1996.

 

copyright 13 April 1998 and 08 April 2000 by Allen Edwall - all rights reserved

 

    Allen Edwall is a computer programmer/electrical engineer who has studied astrology for 28 years. He gets a real kick out of writing custom astrology programs and supplying people with simple, straight-forward, and practical software that will run their astrological calculations for them so they can save their brains for interpretation. He welcomes your comments regarding cosmodynes or anything else, for that matter.


last updated - 20 Feb 2001

 



Allen Edwall

All programs copyrighted