Donald Adams shared Gary Voss's post.
to Sympathetic
Vibratory Physics
Amazing
things happen when you send frequency modulation@ 180% out of phase, back to
the source.
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Don Estes Yes! And
there are actually 360 degrees of phase, each one having its own pattern and effect.
Phase is the next frontier of vibrational science and sound therapy.
Donald Adams Good to hear from you again my friend
Don Estes! Yes, I agree entirely with you about phase here and also with the
360 degrees, while you and I have different approaches I often think we are
studying similiar elephants, I agree with each degree having its own
pattern and effect entirely... in my research I find that each degrees info
pattern has significant characteristics identified by number of authours, my
fave is Carelli..... also phase plays a significant part in my approach to
sound therapy, science etc..... interesting related links to follow below ;
Donald Adams “The Degree is the most mysterious
element in astrology,
and indeed the key to all deeper astrological interpretation.”http://soundofstars.org/astrodegrees.htm
Donald Adams PHASE ENCODED PATTERNS LISTED BY
DEGREE (360)http://soundofstars.org/degrees/
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Don Estes Most sound
engineers understand macro phase, or the timing differences between sound
hitting the ears at different times from reflections in the environment...or
what happens when you flip the connectors on a speaker to throw it 180 degrees
out of phase. However, most don't understand that each simple wave inside the
complex wave has its own phase due to the real and imaginary ratio. Each of the
single waves can be a sine wave, cosine wave or some combination thereof.
They're not all sine waves. This is where the real information is stored...not
in the frequency.
Donald Adams Hugely supportive of efforts by those seriously
looking into these issues, lots of targets to go after ; pilot waves, solitonic
spike trains, etc.... some relevant links ; Aether flux and celestial motions
http://www.aetherometry.com/Aethero.../pratt_aether_grav.php
Life Rhythm as a Symphony of Oscillatory Patterns:
Electromagnetic Energy and Sound Vibration Modulates
Gene Expression for Biological Signaling and Healing
David Muehsam, PhD, Italy; Carlo Ventura, MD, PhD, Italy
https://www.researchgate.net/.../262150105_Life_Rhythm_as...
JournalofCosmology.com, 2011
Consciousness in the Universe:
Neuroscience, Quantum Space-Time Geometry and Orch OR Theory
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Donald Adams In my model, the complex frequencies
do effectively store the needed information, as an unfolding topological map -
as you know information can be encoded via phase angle, amplitude variance,
etc.... my method is entirely different from the mundane sound therapy out
there using simple tones, grin...
Don Estes Yes...mostly
about phase and amplitude more than frequency.
Don Estes Our work is
about the real and imaginary ratios that cause the phases of the simply single waves.
Don Estes the
"simple" waves
Donald Adams Hey Don, have followed your work for a
very long time - very much respect you and your efforts. Ive been taking an
approach quite different, some small similiarities in general ways perhaps, but
overall quite different. The effectiveness of my method as reported
by users over many years is gratifying of course, but seeing concrete positive
change in their lives is the greatest reward. We should exchange youtube
channels, feel free to check mine out here ;http://www.youtube.com/user/docstar77 and I would
welcome reviewing your channel as well Cheers
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Donald Adams Our frequencies are not simple but
complex, some are quite complex, but in many ways we may be skinning the same
animal, just differently
Don Estes There are many ways to skin the animal
of sound. I'm just surprised that everyone has for so long been hung on the
concept of "frequency" when it just one of the components of a
signal, in fact, one of the minor components.
Donald Adams Its abysmal to review pop gen pub
cultures grasp of knowledge "frequency" applications, esp towards
health.. its proper understanding is sadly lacking. Frequencies, when
understood and used properly are key components and of primary importance, a
review of Bendinis sideband work with Rife tech, Priores work, Rife himself,
not to mention others have demonstrated this concretely. "Platonic synthetic
geometry is a medium of metaphor — a medium akin to, and inseparable from the
well-tempered system of musical composition" Perhaps we'll have to agree
to disagree on this point, but perhaps this is about semantics. You may be
referring to an idea you have about frequencies that is different than mine.
Cheers
Don Estes Don't think
we're disagreeing. I was just pointing out that a signal is a complex frequency
is composed of frequency, waveform (phase), wavelength, and amplitude and to
concentrate on the value of only frequency is very limiting. Frequency in only
the carrier wave. When you dial into to 97.5 on your radio dial you don't hear
97.5 Khz, the frequency you are dialing into, but rather the phases, overtones
and magnitudes that are riding piggyback on that frequency. Sound creates form,
and its the phase that creates all form and shape...the real and imaginary
ratios. Complex Freq = Real x Cosine x Freq + Imaginary x Sine x Freq. Grand
Unification of Real and Imaginary means that any real thing taken to the power
of its own imagination results in unity and wholeness.
Donald Adams Hi Don, as you know a radio transmission
isnt just a carrier wave (frequency) but also a signal ( frequency), however
comparing a radio transmission to the frequencies I design is like comparing an
apple to a duck. When my frequencies are broadcast as audible
sound or via varying magnetic fields, granted the sound or mag field is the
carrier, but the signal (information encoded) is a topological map. In your
system we see emerging patterns
brought on by a biofeedback symbiosis, in my system the patterns are entrained
directly to the user - so for example, if you were to expose one of your
clients to my frequencies, you would see the emergent pattern on your systems
display being driven to conformal shapes dynamically relating to the topology
in my frequency tracks. I appreciate the value in your use
of imaginary values, and have for a long time. As you know likely also, when we
use sin, cosine we are graphing the wave(s), these are representations -
however sound and other em energies are not simply a 2d graphical
phenomenon they are 3D or higher, sound travels spherically, even when we use
cymatics on a plane we are viewing a 2d slice of a higher dimensional
phenomena, the often complex forms in chladni figures contain the informational
signals as geometric shapes and ratio relations - this is
the critical info, and this is similiar to how I map the terrain of the psyche,
emotions, thought, etc which is then embedded into the frequencies.
Donald Adams Frequency application isnt limiting,
its how they are used that makes them so or not.
Don Estes Not trying
to argue Donald, just tying to point out that there is more to a vibrational
signal than just frequency.
Donald Adams Of course, totally understand. Perhaps
an analogy will help clear this up - my key point here is ethat you and I have
similiar and yet different aims. My goal is to provide rapid state change for
people via entrainment through resonant frequencies - within the envelope of
resonance are instructional specifiers to direct that state change. In your
system you are using a different approach. Here is the analogy ;
Donald Adams With frequencies (resonance), you can shatter
a bridge or a virus, you can impel an emotional state, such as affinity even
love between two people, you can interrupt or cohere behaviour. Your system
cannot shatter a bridge, nor can it cause very rapid state change - but thats
ok because that is not what it is intended or designed to do. The reason
ultimately frequencies ARE very important is that they are associated with
dimensional reality. To say that the length of your spine isnt important,
wouldnt be true - it is very important, and the inverse of that length is its
frequency. All of us are affected every single day in critical ways by
frequencies ; the wave lengths of coloured light ; the sun, moon, etc...
emissions from microwave cell towers, em fields broadcast from electro devices
all around us. All of the organs in our bodies, right down to the individual
cells all have specific frequencies - they have these for a very important
reason - not least of which is that the frequencies are a critical part of
their very signature of existence in time space, in fact you could say that the
frequency of a biological cell is literally like its "address" it
space time. We can have huge affects on a target by tweaking with resonant
frequencies.... we already know this and have for at least decades ala Priore,
Rife, Bearden, Bendidin, etc.... however in my system, the frequency envelope
is differentiated and filigreed to the point where specific qualitative states
are introduced in the domain between the signal signal and carrier, in other
words three parts , not two ; carrier // interstitial boundary // signal,
instead of just carrier / signal. The qualifiers are introduced in the
interstitial layer. This doesnt make my system better than yours, just
different, but then you and I have different goals with some similiarities.
In your system, you use emergence to state, a slower
process
over time - but this is an entirely natural principle and valid.
One area where your work and mine converge is in the interstitial domain, its
that layer I focus mainly on - in your case you focus on the crossing of the
domains back and forth.
Your system has more in common with the following process
- see content listed below
"...researchers have shown that open-cell clouds follow the
principles of self-organizing systems - they spontaneously form dynamic,
coherent structures that tend to repair themselves and resist change. Such
clouds join other self-organizing networks such as flocks of birds, shifting
sand dunes or bubbles in boiling water.."
http://www.google.ca/search?q=%2B%22hexagonal+cells%22+%2B%22boiling+water%22&hl=en&sa=2
"...principle called self-organization that also explains
phenomena like flocks of birds, shifting sand dunes and the synchronized
flashing of fireflies."
"Ripples in sand, found on both beaches and dunes, are one
of nature's most ubiquitous and spectacular examples of self-organization. They
do not result from some predetermined pattern in the wind that is somehow
impressed on the surface, but rather from the dynamics of individual grains in
motion across the surface. "
"The pattern is never perfect, but instead the ripple
crests occasionally split or terminate, generating a pattern that looks
remarkably like one's fingerprint. "
https://www.livescience.com/32688-fireflies-synchronous-flashes-are-booty-calls-study-reveals.html
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-do-regular-wavelike-s/
http://www.theborneopost.com/2017/12/10/geometric-patterns-in-nature/
https://www.livescience.com/6832-strange-honeycomb-cloud-patterns-explained.html
Frequencies are quite relevant today in health and wellness
and have all kinds of applications, Im hardly the only one doing
it
(altho I have my own unique approach) the entire
industry and field of PEMF is based on this, such
as Dr Pawluks well known work ;
BIOMAGNETIC FIELDS ;
https://www.drpawluk.com/education/biomagnetic-fields
/
Donald Adams To summarize, note again the phrase
shown above ;
"Ripples in sand, found on both beaches and
dunes, are one of nature's most ubiquitous and spectacular examples of
self-organization. They do not result from some predetermined pattern in the
wind that is somehow impressed on the surface, but rather from the dynamics of
individual grains in motion across the surface. "
Donald Adams My approach is the ; "pattern in
the wind impressed on the surface", your approach is the latter .... so as
I said, similiar but different
Don Estes Good
comparison Donald. I'll think about this a bit and get back to you. Your
observations about our patent on separation of real and imaginary are right on,
when compared to your approach. However, our VibraSound and Sensorium
technologies are right in line with what you do...in the frequency domain as
opposed to the phase domain. We've learned how to create a frequency accurate
to six decimal places, by discovering that the unit of measurement must be a
harmonic of the sampling rate used to take the sample. With the Sensorium, 107
different parameters of frequency can be generated, synchronized and programmed
into sessions of unlimited segments to control light diodes, color generators,
frequency baths, tactile vibrations, music therapy, em fields, pulsed plasma
tubes or any other form of vibration, with the push of a single button. The
only system available where all generators are phase synchronous.
Donald Adams Thanks amigo, appreciate the feedback.
I look forward to your future feedback. I continue to see value in your
approach of
real vs imaginary, even Plichta espouses
"i" as a meaningful unit.
Very glad to hear you address the frequency domain
with your
Vibrasound, Sensorium tech... perhaps I should
clarify however,
SOS Frequenies arent only operating as frequencies
but they
do incorporate micro-phase signalling as well.
I applaud your exploration of the six digit range
and I can appreciate why you would do that for a number of reasons, our SOS
tracks often incorporate 9 digit plus accuracy. I understand your concern for
harmonic sampling rates as the concept of sweeping has been around for some
time, decades, within the traditional Rife communities. Strobing a target is
helpful... the reason I incorporate 9 digit plus accuracy however isnt only for
this purpose, but again we are approaching the subject differently.
I can appreciate your utility of 107 parameters in
your methods,
in SOS, tracks may incorporate hundreds to thousands
of
different tones, these are all linked together in a
composite tapestry representing the state change, we achieve the same basic
effects while keeping the price down and convenience up - one of the many
reasons we feel our SOS tracks are the best over all choice for audio input to
LED driven mind machines as demonstrated here ;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JfEp6Sbgt4
Our tracks perform better than any other in so far
as tangible results are concerned with measurable state change also via
peripheral devices including tactiles, the code in our tracks by their very
nature induces synchronous phenomena as witnessed
and reported by a very large number of our users
over
many years - to the extent of witnessed externalized
physical phenomenon as reported via links such as ;
http://www.soundofstars.org/proof.htm#evidence
http://www.soundofstars.org/comments.htm
http://www.soundofstars.org/summaryhigher.htm
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Don Estes Is the MindMachine your product?
Donald Adams The mind machine is driven by SOS
Frequency tracks, the hardware device is a unique protoype in development by a
member of ours who hopes to bring his model to market. I encourage and
collaborate with external vendors where there is mutual benefit to be derived.
You can learn more about his device here ;
DEVELOPERS
http://soundofstars.org/developers.htm
In my discussions with Mitch Altman, founder of the
Global
Maker Movement and Hacker Spaces, we covered
similiar
ground and its been a great pleasure on my part to
promote
and support his firm Corfield Electronics, you can
view
more on this here ;
MITCH ALTMAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AajPhYlZ08I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W4ekwAd0MI
http://soundofstars.org/mindmachine.htm
Don Estes We first
introduced light and sound devices in the late 70's before the
Synchro-energizer. In those days there were no LEDs so we glued incandescent
bulbs for flashlights into welders goggles:~) Over the years we've learned a
lot about the science and have incorporated all of that into our latest
vibrational therapy system called the Sensorium LSV II. Multiple controllable
light diodes for each eye, choice of waveform, control over pulse width and
phase, and our unique waveform modulated music modulation creates the ultimate
visual experience. Would love to try some of your stuff with our system. It can
process any music or sound track. In addition, it can access digital music
libraries like iTunes, synthesize subharmonics, create ascending or descending
harmonics, project colors, control other vibrational devices and dramatically
enhance music with our Psi-Fidelity Audio Dimensionalizer. Are you locked in
with the MindMachine or can you do other collaborations?
Donald Adams Don, I first came across your work many years ago on Jerrys
Keelynet, Jerry was an esteemed contact and friend and I was sorry to hear of
him passing. I was aware of much of your work through him
and I appreciate your early and innovative work and
I loved your
description on Synchro-Energizer and the glued on
bulbs to goggles.
Much respect to you and I agree its funny to think
of now, but still
seriously worthy of respect and consideration. Many,
including
myself view you as a true pioneer.
Your sensorium also sounds meritous and youve done
excellent work there!
You mentioned wanting to try our tracks in your
system(s) and you are
certainly welcome to. I can send you one of our most
popular tracks
and we also have a discounted frequency collection
for developers.
You also asked ; "Are you locked in with the
MindMachine or can you do other collaborations?"
We discussed doing an exclusive deal and this is
still on the table
but hasnt solidified. His design is quite unique and
exciting, very different from what is out there and our goal was to get his
device on the market powered by our SOS tracks - a sure fire hit and a win win
situation. While he has a decent prototype done, his indiegogo
fundraising campaign is stalled, hes a small
independent and
hasnt been able to raise the funds as yet to get
this to market.
See ; https://www.indiegogo.com/.../xoggl-sense-augmented...
Currently I am open to other collaborations.
The only closed agreements I have currently are with
regional
distributors, so for example in Italy we have an
exclusive
agreement for most of that country with Supernatura
;
https://www.supernaturamica.com/.../cat.../18-frequenze.html andhttps://www.supernaturamica.com/.../498-ebfs-electric...
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Don Estes Is Gary's image at the original post
of this thread a cymagraph?
Donald Adams Don, if I recall correctly Gary is
referring to sonic microscopy - or something similiar
Don Estes When you
are combining frequencies how do you control their phase? And how do you create
frequencies accurate to 9 decimal points. Measuring in hertz puts one off by
.02 Hz at the first octave and 768 hertz at the sampling rate.
Donald Adams Thanks for the questions Don, you
asked ;
"When you are combining frequencies how do you
control their phase?"
"And how do you create frequencies accurate to
9 decimal points. Measuring in hertz puts one off by .02 Hz at the first octave
and 768 hertz at the sampling rate."
To answer the above I'll do my best to describe my
process
appropriately, briefly - with the caveat of course,
as Im sure you
can relate to, that some tech specifics are
proprietary so I cant
reveal certain aspects. To date, I have never
released to the
public domain full resolution versions of my tracks.
There are
many reasons for this, some of which I wont go into
here. Most
of the tracks Ive released are only at approximately
30% their potential effect - and yet at only that dilution the effects
experienced and exhibited are consistenly profound as reported by users.
Phase control is implicit, within the model itself.
A target state
is identified and every single variance such as a
change in tone,
a pop, etc is preset - each track literally
represents an object
moving through a continuum landscape.
The "object" correlates to a pattern of
meaning that the body
and mind recognizes, generally as a desired state.
There have been occasions where users have had very
tangible "sightings" of externalized polygonal shapes and sparks,
(among other things)
for example see;
· What are those Blue Sparks you see when listening
to the frequencies?
· What are those little blue flecks/sparkles?
http://www.soundofstars.org/questionsanswers.htm
These appear, when they do, as a sort of very
visible
(not simply imagined or seen with the eyes closed)
tangible lucid phenomenon. See also ;
http://www.soundofstars.org/comments.htm#more
I do not start off measuring in Hertz, I bypass the
offset
at the beginning. This does not mean there is never
any
noise in the continuum, but the small amount of
noise
that does ever occur doesnt matter since the models
engine compensates via the form factor of the
envelope
of the given track. Rendered and distributed tracks
to the
public dont usually include decimal precision past
three or
four places - this is on purpose.
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