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Subject: Doc's {Don's ?} reflections on the complex plane

"unification of Heleus' constant graphical set 'B4C'

via quad-orthogonal relations "

Apr. 4, 2009 at 7:48 p.m.

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From: lukegatto99@yahoo.com ( https://genesa.org/ )

To: mheleus1@cox.net, doc_starz@yahoo.com, frank@XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com, nasaufos@XXX.com, vandornaa@XXX.com, docpowell@XXXX.com, mjonesa@XXXX.com, implosiongroup@XXXX.com, bvr1001@XXXX.com, kentkettell@ZZZZZZ.net, skrippner@XXXXXX.edu

Michael , I enjoyed the comments Frank and 'Doc' { Don ? } offered up in

responding to your thesis of adding a 'fifth' element in regard to number

theory constants - the imaginary number 'i' - and look forward to further

ruminations on the matter . I agree with Frank that "the complex number 'i'

is implied { ie. included } in exponentiating 'e'with the "basic four ratios" , ..."

with a conspicuous role for the vesica pisces ."

'Doc' {Don ?} brilliantly follows the rabbit { black } hole of the "Penrose style Twistor field "

via the "unification of the four constants {as a set} via quad-orthogonal " operations .

The translational properties of the graphically expressed 'B4C constants set' implies the

supersymmetries that 'Doc' regards as possibly extending to lower n dimensions ,

with concomitant " singularity bifurcations " .

Whittaker and Clerk Maxwell's quaternions as a higher-dimensional analogue of the complex numbers combined with Heleus' B4C graphical representation approach to 4d spacetime ( http://soundofstars.org/b4c.pdf ) leads to compelling revelations of double-quaternions 'octonions' forming an eight-dimensional non-associative division algebra . Penrose points out that "the only division algebras are the real numbers , the complex numbers , the quaternions , and the octonions . ". Approaching quaternions through the 'spinor' geometries of orthototational operations wherein an object undergoing a complete rotation through 2 pi turns into a unique negative state , satisfies the need to abandon the division property - to arrive at the Grassman algebras of non-commutative long range forces where metrics on the space { as in Clifford algebras } are not required , allowing qualitative descriptions of cube-octa hexahedral spherical geometries of non-Euclidian 6-manifolds . These six dimensions are three dimensions {degrees of freedom} in the position of the center of gravity and three more in the rotational orientation of the [matrix} body . This leads to 'topological non-trivialities' referring to rotational orientations of a toroidal body , distinguished from the perfect sphere and the Euclidian plane . This toroidal topology displays "multiple connectivity" of vector field functions resulting in holomorphic consistencies . { The Road to Reality , Roger Penrose . pp.198-244. }

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To: lukegatto99@yahoo.com

Cc: doc_starz@yahoo.com,nasaufos@XXX.com,frank@XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com,vandomaa@aol.com,docpowell@XXXX.commore...

Hi Luke,

I didn't think Penrose's work with the B4C in the twistor's actually directly included phi--except for Ramanujan, like in his first letter to Hardy, most well known mathematicians have limited themselves to 2,e,pi and i leaving out phi--I saw Penrose went into 5 symmetry with the quasi-tilings, and when describing quantum entanglement with a model using a pair of dodecs. When researcher Bill Donavan took a look at what was needed to actually describe the electrical phenomena he knew of and had experienced a good deal of, he found that he need more than octonions and it took sedenions with 16 elements to describe the interplay of polarities. I find this interesting in light of the possible mapping of each sedenion element to one of the vertices of a non-centered tesseract (I mean not having a central point counted as a vertex) which then can permute and combine whereupon in my interacting dual centered tesseract model with 17 salient points each, the number of combinations comes to 34 factorial, some 2.95x10^38, about 17% more than the value in that order of magnitude Ostrander gave for the number of possible cosmic states given his parameters in Through The Barrier.

Michael

-- On Sat, 4/4/09, Michael Heleus <mheleus1@cox.net> wrote:

From: Michael Heleus <mheleus1@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Imaginary number i : 'B5C' and its fellows = to HC {?} , figuring in consciousness and zeropoint studies
To: "Frank van den Bovenkamp" <frank@XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com>
Cc: "Michael Heleus" <mheleus1@cox.net>, jbarrett999@XXXX.net, "lyn hebenstreit" <lrh127@ZZZZ.com>, "bob powell" <docpowell@XXXX.com>, doc_starz@yahoo.com, "elizabeth rauscher" <bvr1001@XXXX.com>, "kent kettell" <kentkettell@ZZZZZZ.net>, "luke gatto" <lukegatto99@yahoo.com>, "Robert Hutchings" <geomatrix1@XXXX.com>, "Martin A. Jones" <mjonesa@XXXX.com>, danwinter@fractalfield.com, "david sereda" <nasaufos@XXX.com>, "vandorn hinnant" <vandornaa@XXX.com>
Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 12:11 PM
Frank,

Thanks again for this synthesis of the constants diagram.

I'd like to think there is more than conventional
physics importance with the connections and so significance
of these constants. First, to consider only ratios as
carrying sacred significance does homage to some mystery
schools without going far enough to extend the same
reverence for some of the modern findings that will prove
worthy of such reverence eventually. Second, it's time
then, I'd think, to look at what the criteria are that
distinguish math from numerology. As I've said
elsewhere, it's a fool's paradise not to consider
the symbolic content of number, yet to do so entails risk of
degeneration into error and superstition. This area is so
risky that even the isolated and guarded mystery schools of
yore, especially the pythagorean, had difficulty in stably
and satisfactorily harmonizing this area. This strong
degenerative tendency is why the psi art/sciences practiced
in a sociopathic cosmically misconnected milieu as has
perennially existed outside such schools remain so turbid
and are so easily mostly misapplied or give warped results.
Perhaps only those who have had the equivalent of such
school training or have by some means attained at least a
similar inner state of being would be qualified to make this
assessment. But the rest of us might as well work on our own
being by beginning to address these areas--if a source of
such level of being and personal non-identified cosmic
connectedness can be found to guide the effort.. That would
tend to bring the empowerment, wisdom, and love as
whole-I-ness sought as the sensationalism, glamor, and error
are eliminated.

Michael

On Apr 4, 2009, at 5:43 AM, Frank van den Bovenkamp wrote:

Hello Doc Star et all

Here is a graphical representation which I sent to
Michael a few weeks
ago. It is not a numerological approximation but
mathematically exact.

The Pi square (uniquely showing Pi as a straight
ratio) I added recently..

The complex number i is implied in exponentiating e
(in this case, to form
the e-spiral).

We wouldn't want this is to be mathematically
non-trivial, but graphically it
may give just the right intuïtive view for everyone,
on the basic four ratios,
with a conspicuous role for the Vesica Pisces.

I prefer the term "B4R" i.e.
ratio's, as constants imply a rather conventional
physics importance. Ratios are proven essential in
universal relationships
but are per definition dimension-less. Every
highschool kid knows that, if not
intellectually, then intuïtively. So there's
really nothing substantially to know
outside yourself, which places empowerment
over sensationalism as the
best way of sharing ideas.

www.heartcoherence.com/vp-squared

Frank

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----- Original Message -----
From: Doc Stars
To: Michael Heleus ; kent kettell ; Frank van den
Bovenkamp ; Robert Hutchings ; david sereda ; vandorn
hinnant ; bob powell ; Martin A. Jones ; lyn hebenstreit ;
elizabeth rauscher ; lukegatto99@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Imaginary number i : 'B5C'
and its fellows = to HC {?} , figuring in consciousness and
zeropoint studies

Good job Michael!

Was wondering when you'd incorporate
"i" into this.... susepcted you were already
working on it.... it REALLY needed to be done.... glad you
got to it so quickly

Now... what I'd like to see at some point if
your are so inclined, is a topological analog of this,
graphically represented, can't be too tough.....

Also, not sure if this will be helpful Luke,
Michael can do a much better job at describing the meaning
of B4C.... since its his baby

But my humble two cents ; the B4C constants set
is highly significant because it reveals a unification of
the four constants (as a set) via quad-orthogonal (or
extremely near orthogonal
relations).... this in and of itself is quite
marvellous... but some of the implied meanings may be even
more profound, at least to my mind... and that is that the
B4C model gives us a possible taste of a PRACTICAL REAL
WORLD NATURAL example of Penrose style Twistor perturbations
from super symmetry states to lower n-dimensions.... even
possibly singularity bifurcations into the material 3d
mundane realm....

Example... pick one of the four constants... then
imagine the constant itself is a 'trickle down
effect' from a higher dimension to this one...
MEANING... that if the point of emergence is tracked back to
the origin point in this reality, and that point itself is
likely to be in line with strange attractor / basin
characteristics... then crossing OVER that domain to where
the emission comes from.... its highly likely that the
nature of the constant is VERY different on the other side,
i.e. " pi " is no longer pi at all.... but this
is not so outlandish at all and we see vivid examples of
this type of exploration in both the formalized academic
venues as well as some of the more respected math fringe
groups via apparent deformations, warping, reshaping,
extended characteristic sets of classical 3d forms into some
pretty bizarre terrains.... not sure if or to what extent
Michael has considered this as yet, but I suspect that the
B4C may well shed stunning new light on unknown areas in
topics such as saddle points, hopf bifurcatations, Devils
Staircases, Plichtas Prime Number Cross (especially with
" i " now included via the B5C, classical
Whittaker and Maxwellian quaternions, all kinds of
things.....

Metphys explored this constant cross over to some
degree in their old "Electrons and Mythologies"
forum.... and this particular subject was of intense
interest to them.... trying to track a constant back to its
origin point and then beyond....

I think part of the trick here is to view the B4C,
and now B5C as a curious composite tensor set, that when
viewed as a whole is showing a specific type of Twistor
field.... follow the Twistor field back to the originating
perturbation.... and then attempt to extrapolate whats on
the other side..... my guess is it will turn out to be a
radiational fissure from a singularity of some kind......

Hope thats a modestly meaningful contribution....

Kind regards to all....

--- On Sat, 4/4/09, luke gatto
<lukegatto99@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: luke gatto <lukegatto99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Imaginary number i : 'B5C'
and its fellows = to HC {?} , figuring in consciousness and
zeropoint studies
To: "Michael Heleus"
<mheleus1@cox.net>, "kent kettell"
<kentkettell@ZZZZZZ.net>, "Frank van den
Bovenkamp" <frank@XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com>,
"Robert Hutchings" <geomatrix1@XXXX.com>,
"david sereda" <nasaufos@XXX.com>,
"vandorn hinnant" <vandornaa@XXX.com>,
"bob powell" <docpowell@XXXX.com>,
"Martin A. Jones" <mjonesa@XXXX.com>,
"lyn hebenstreit" <lrh127@ZZZZ.com>,
"elizabeth rauscher" <bvr1001@XXXX.com>
Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 4:47 AM

Michael , Please spell out HC's meaning ,
you really tend to be elitist in your expositions , assuming
everyone will understand your cryptic notes in passing !

--- On Fri, 4/3/09, Michael Heleus
<mheleus1@cox.net> wrote:
From: Michael Heleus
<mheleus1@cox.net>
Subject: i: B5C and its fellows = to HC,
figuring in consciousness and zeropoint studies
To: mheleus1@cox.net
Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 6:31 PM

Fellow Researchers,

The fifth constant which I have for a
while now considered to belong with the B4C group (phi,2,e
and pi) making it B5C is the base of the imaginary numbers,
i, since it can be raised to a less than 4 digit integer
reciprocal and generate a fit for HC suitably close to a
part in a thousand or better. It is on a different level of
abstracting than the first four as it is imaginary and so
requires a repeat of itself in the exponent to make the
result a real number (how I detest that inadequate
terminology as all numbers you can create are real, we just
need a better indexing terminology) and so has a place
above their plane as the apex of a pyramid.

The second result is the closest to the
actual HC value=1.00604272345.
The first is best small integer
appoximation using arithmetic operations so far found, and
the 4th is the value from i representing complex numbers,
while the 3rd and the 5th are transcendental and rational
factorial function derivations, and so belong with higher
function representations.

Michael Heleus

Reply-To: lukegatto99@yahoo.com

Michael , I enjoyed the comments Frank and 'Doc' { Don ? } offered up in responding to your thesis of adding a 'fifth' element in regard to number theory constants - the imaginary number 'i' - and look forward to further ruminations on the matter . I agree with Frank that "the complex number 'i' is implied { ie. included } in exponentiating 'e'with the "basic four ratios" , ..." with a conspicuous role for the vesica pisces ."
'Doc' {Don ?} brilliantly follows the rabbit { black } hole of the "Penrose style Twistor
field " via the "unification of the four constants {as a set} via quad-orthogonal " operations . The translational properties of the graphically expressed 'B4C constants set' implies the supersymmetries that 'Doc' regards as possibly extending to lower n dimensions , with concomitant " singularity bifurcations " . Whittaker and Clerk Maxwell's quaternions as a higher-dimensional analogue of the complex numbers combined with Heleus' B4C graphical representation approach to 4d spacetime leads to compelling revelations of double-quaternions 'octonions' forming an eight-dimensional non-associative division algebra . Penrose points out that "the only division algebras are the real numbers , the complex numbers , the quaternions , and the octonions . ". Approaching quaternions through the 'spinor' geometries of orthototational operations wherein an object undergoing a complete rotation through 2 pi turns into a unique negative state , satisfies the need to
abandon the division property - to arrive at the Grassman algebras of non-commutative long range forces where metrics on the space { as in Clifford algebras } are not required , allowing qualitative descriptions of cube-octa hexahedral spherical geometries of non-Euclidian 6-manifolds . These six dimensions are three dimensions {degrees of freedom} in the position of the center of gravity and three more in the rotational orientation of the [matrix} body . This leads to 'topological non-trivialities' referring to rotational orientations of a toroidal body , distinguished from the perfect sphere and the Euclidian plane . This toroidal topology displays "multiple connectivity" of vector field functions resulting in holomorphic consistencies . { The Road to Reality , Roger Penrose . pp.198-244. }
- -- On Sat, 4/4/09, Michael Heleus <mheleus1@cox.net> wrote:

From: Michael Heleus <mheleus1@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Imaginary number i : 'B5C' and its fellows = to HC {?} , figuring in consciousness and zeropoint studies
To: "Frank van den Bovenkamp" <frank@XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com>
Cc: "Michael Heleus" <mheleus1@cox.net>, jbarrett999@XXXX.net, "lyn hebenstreit" <lrh127@ZZZZ.com>, "bob powell" <docpowell@XXXX.com>, doc_starz@yahoo.com, "elizabeth rauscher" <bvr1001@XXXX.com>, "kent kettell" <kentkettell@ZZZZZZ.net>, "luke gatto" <lukegatto99@yahoo.com>, "Robert Hutchings" <geomatrix1@XXXX.com>, "Martin A. Jones" <mjonesa@XXXX.com>, danwinter@fractalfield.com, "david sereda" <nasaufos@XXX.com>, "vandorn hinnant" <vandornaa@XXX.com>

Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 12:11 PM
Frank,

Thanks again for this synthesis of the constants diagram.

I'd like to think there is more than conventional
physics importance with the connections and so significance
of these constants. First, to consider only ratios as
carrying sacred significance does homage to some mystery
schools without going far enough to extend the same
reverence for some of the modern findings that will prove
worthy of such reverence eventually. Second, it's time
then, I'd think, to look at what the criteria are that
distinguish math from numerology. As I've said
elsewhere, it's a fool's paradise not to consider
the symbolic content of number, yet to do so entails risk of
degeneration into error and superstition. This area is so
risky that even the isolated and guarded mystery schools of
yore, especially the pythagorean, had difficulty in stably
and satisfactorily harmonizing this area. This strong
degenerative tendency is why the psi art/sciences practiced
in a sociopathic cosmically misconnected milieu as has
perennially existed outside such schools remain so turbid
and are so easily mostly misapplied or give warped results.
Perhaps only those who have had the equivalent of such
school training or have by some means attained at least a
similar inner state of being would be qualified to make this
assessment. But the rest of us might as well work on our own
being by beginning to address these areas--if a source of
such level of being and personal non-identified cosmic
connectedness can be found to guide the effort.. That would
tend to bring the empowerment, wisdom, and love as
whole-I-ness sought as the sensationalism, glamor, and error
are eliminated.

Michael

On Apr 4, 2009, at 5:43 AM, Frank van den Bovenkamp wrote:

Hello Doc Star et all

Here is a graphical representation which I sent to
Michael a few weeks
ago. It is not a numerological approximation but
mathematically exact.

The Pi square (uniquely showing Pi as a straight
ratio) I added recently..

The complex number i is implied in exponentiating e
(in this case, to form
the e-spiral).

We wouldn't want this is to be mathematically
non-trivial, but graphically it
may give just the right intuïtive view for everyone,
on the basic four ratios,
with a conspicuous role for the Vesica Pisces.

I prefer the term "B4R" i.e.
ratio's, as constants imply a rather conventional
physics importance. Ratios are proven essential in
universal relationships
but are per definition dimension-less. Every
highschool kid knows that, if not
intellectually, then intuïtively. So there's
really nothing substantially to know
outside yourself, which places empowerment
over sensationalism as the
best way of sharing ideas.

www.heartcoherence.com/vp-squared

Frank

<unknown.gif>

----- Original Message -----
From: Doc Stars
To: Michael Heleus ; kent kettell ; Frank van den
Bovenkamp ; Robert Hutchings ; david sereda ; vandorn
hinnant ; bob powell ; Martin A. Jones ; lyn hebenstreit ;
elizabeth rauscher ; lukegatto99@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Imaginary number i : 'B5C'
and its fellows = to HC {?} , figuring in consciousness and
zeropoint studies

Good job Michael!

Was wondering when you'd incorporate
"i" into this.... susepcted you were already
working on it.... it REALLY needed to be done.... glad you
got to it so quickly

Now... what I'd like to see at some point if
your are so inclined, is a topological analog of this,
graphically represented, can't be too tough.....

Also, not sure if this will be helpful Luke,
Michael can do a much better job at describing the meaning
of B4C.... since its his baby

But my humble two cents ; the B4C constants set
is highly significant because it reveals a unification of
the four constants (as a set) via quad-orthogonal (or
extremely near orthogonal
relations).... this in and of itself is quite
marvellous... but some of the implied meanings may be even
more profound, at least to my mind... and that is that the
B4C model gives us a possible taste of a PRACTICAL REAL
WORLD NATURAL example of Penrose style Twistor perturbations

from super symmetry states to lower n-dimensions.... even
possibly singularity bifurcations into the material 3d
mundane realm....

Example... pick one of the four constants... then
imagine the constant itself is a 'trickle down
effect' from a higher dimension to this one...
MEANING... that if the point of emergence is tracked back to
the origin point in this reality, and that point itself is
likely to be in line with strange attractor / basin
characteristics... then crossing OVER that domain to where
the emission comes from.... its highly likely that the
nature of the constant is VERY different on the other side,
i.e. " pi " is no longer pi at all.... but this
is not so outlandish at all and we see vivid examples of
this type of exploration in both the formalized academic
venues as well as some of the more respected math fringe
groups via apparent deformations, warping, reshaping,
extended characteristic sets of classical 3d forms into some
pretty bizarre terrains.... not sure if or to what extent
Michael has considered this as yet, but I suspect that the
B4C may well shed stunning new light on unknown areas in
topics such as saddle points, hopf bifurcatations, Devils
Staircases, Plichtas Prime Number Cross (especially with
" i " now included via the B5C, classical
Whittaker and Maxwellian quaternions, all kinds of
things.....

Metphys explored this constant cross over to some
degree in their old "Electrons and Mythologies"
forum.... and this particular subject was of intense
interest to them.... trying to track a constant back to its
origin point and then beyond....

I think part of the trick here is to view the B4C,
and now B5C as a curious composite tensor set, that when
viewed as a whole is showing a specific type of Twistor
field.... follow the Twistor field back to the originating
perturbation.... and then attempt to extrapolate whats on
the other side..... my guess is it will turn out to be a
radiational fissure from a singularity of some kind......

Hope thats a modestly meaningful contribution....

Kind regards to all....

--- On Sat, 4/4/09, luke gatto
<lukegatto99@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: luke gatto <lukegatto99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Imaginary number i : 'B5C'
and its fellows = to HC {?} , figuring in consciousness and
zeropoint studies
To: "Michael Heleus"
<mheleus1@cox.net>, "kent kettell"
<kentkettell@ZZZZZZ.net>, "Frank van den
Bovenkamp" <frank@XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com>,
"Robert Hutchings" <geomatrix1@XXXX.com>,
"david sereda" <nasaufos@XXX.com>,
"vandorn hinnant" <vandornaa@XXX.com>,
"bob powell" <docpowell@XXXX.com>,
"Martin A. Jones" <mjonesa@XXXX.com>,
"lyn hebenstreit" <lrh127@ZZZZ.com>,
"elizabeth rauscher" <bvr1001@XXXX.com>
Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 4:47 AM

Michael , Please spell out HC's meaning ,
you really tend to be elitist in your expositions , assuming
everyone will understand your cryptic notes in passing !

--- On Fri, 4/3/09, Michael Heleus
<mheleus1@cox.net> wrote:
From: Michael Heleus
<mheleus1@cox.net>
Subject: i: B5C and its fellows = to HC,
figuring in consciousness and zeropoint studies
To: mheleus1@cox.net
Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 6:31 PM

Fellow Researchers,

The fifth constant which I have for a
while now considered to belong with the B4C group (phi,2,e
and pi) making it B5C is the base of the imaginary numbers,
i, since it can be raised to a less than 4 digit integer
reciprocal and generate a fit for HC suitably close to a
part in a thousand or better. It is on a different level of
abstracting than the first four as it is imaginary and so
requires a repeat of itself in the exponent to make the
result a real number (how I detest that inadequate
terminology as all numbers you can create are real, we just
need a better indexing terminology) and so has a place
above their plane as the apex of a pyramid.

The second result is the closest to the
actual HC value=1.00604272345.
The first is best small integer
appoximation using arithmetic operations so far found, and
the 4th is the value from i representing complex numbers,
while the 3rd and the 5th are transcendental and rational

factorial function derivations, and so belong with higher
function representations.

Michael Heleus

I'm quoting above so I can keep a copy for my default mailprogram, not currently functioning well. --M

The bandwidths can be viewed as space time curvatures functioning as coordinates, addresses

that can be manipulated via resonance.

the Super Tonic, Partial 9 is analogous the "C-Axis" of a crystal

"If you really want to pursue important concepts, you'll never be supported by your

contemporary society or colleagues by definition. Science is the pursuit the unknown,

make no mistake. Scientists are highly conservative individuals who run in a flock. They're

influenced by conservative central tendencies. That's the same as granting agencies.:

" Dr. Michael Persinger, Neurotheologist –

( more content to be added in 2021)

Bandwidths of Hyperspace

Sunday, June 26, 2011 8:20 AM

From:"Doc Stars" <doc_starz@yahoo.com>

To:"Michael Heleus" <mheleus1@>

Meant to get back to you on the following ;

> Question to ponder and investigate: what are the natural hyperspace

> bandwidths already in place for such navigation so we don't have to be

> egomaniac worms chewing arbitrary holes in space-time, so messing up

> the natural works? (How natural is that 43-related window of

> Tesla's?)

You may recall I sent a pdf file on Hartmut Mullers work to you a while back, one of the reasons for this was exactly in relation to what you expressed above.

I think its likely that in addition to investigating, testing and cataloging these bandwidths is the the need to view space time curvatures as coordinates, addresses. I think we'll find that we need to view a curvature as a complex structure and to engineer or manipulate such via resonance (mainly) will require a composite approach, including (but not limited to) the gravitational signature. As evidence, it already appears that a chunk of time space CAN be specified by Mullers gravitational standing wave in log space as demonstrated in this video ;

Hartmut Mullers Gravity Wave based GPS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zWFEMZG_jI

Not sure how up to speed you are on Basiago's reports of his personal time travel ( dubious accounts in our opinion at SOS) and instantaneous travel through space to Mars via different and various technologies, but if there is any truth to his reports, certainly the details he gives on the characteristics of the machinery and their usage eccentricities position themselves as candidates for shedding light on current and very tangible curiosities developing in genetics, musicology and contemporary blends of alt tech and esoterica

Example: Basiago claims in one of his trips for Project Pegasus he was placed in what was called a "jump room", essentially a plain square room that you entered on earth but then when you exited the room you were on Mars, the weird thing is he said that when activated the corners of the room could be seen to oblate.

In correspondence with Basiago I asked him if he knew how the project designers determined coordinates for temporal and interstellar travel, he said he didnt know the mechanism or method, but he did know that they were prone to making errors, sometimes gruesome ones and that apparently they could only define a destination in a fuzzy manner, not a precise one.

The following references may shed light on why the corners of the room oblated ;

==============

Merrick ; "..the space inside a semitone naturally creates the anti-harmonic geometry of an egg."

SPHENOMEGACORONA ;

"quasi-periodic" crystal of an egg, this is the anti-harmonic back ground shape of silence.."

"..provides the temporal coherence needed for spatial coherence and regular shapes to emerge in time.

Richard Merrick

http://www.tokenrock.com/dna_music/harmonic_evolution1.php

http://www.tokenrock.com/harmonic_nature/divine_egg.php

http://www.tokenrock.com/harmonic_nature/natural_balance.php

Chi Ming Yang

icosikaioctagon

("quasi 28 gon" : and 28/16 = 1.75)

quasi-periodic, egg geometry in human genetic code

http://www.tokenrock.com/stock/harmonicEvo7.jpg

AND ;

James Llyon References to 'The Golden Ovoid'

https://web.archive.org/web/20050111063308if_/http://www.britishdowsers.org:80/EEG_site/archive/articles/atd2002_issue25/images/JimFig2GoldenEgg1.JPG

http://britishdowsing.net/the-ubiquitous-ovoid/

http://issuu.com/innerstanding/docs/ancient_energy_earth

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Llyon talks about how important it is to slice the funnel at a specific degree and also about how the mouths of the plumes were important considerations in understanding their effects on the environment

The upside, is that if what Basiago is saying is true then teleportation may be far easier and in closer reach than we imagined, on the down side if its used in a primitive but functional way a certain amount of risk is associated with its usage

However, despite all of the above, other aspects likely will have to be included, not just gravity....

Also, we still need to solve what Vogel couldnt, never did, but probably came close to and thats the actual mechanism of the resonant transfer function.... we know that the c-axis is likely involved somehow, and I figured there had to be an analog between Vogels c-axis findings and Merricks "Partial 9" or "Super Particular Ratio".... turns out I was likely right about that, at least in Merricks opinion.... here is a part of some recent correspondence I had with him ;

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From: Richard Merrick <richard@>

Subject: Re: Hi Richard!

To: "Doc Stars" <doc_starz@yahoo.com>

Received: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 1:16 PM

Hi Doc,

Yes, I think so - good observation. Think of this axis extending from the fundamental, through Partial 9 and on up to include all multiples of Partial 9, since they too would synchronize with the same key locations on the fundamental.

Crystallization is a process of spin alignment or polarization of the constituent elements. Different elements emphasize different harmonics in their atomic structure, which would then align around Partial 9 into particular geometries.

Since life is made up of 12% carbon-12 and 86% water, the crystallization of life is a gradient between these two atomic geometries. The geometry of carbon is apparent closest to the resonant heart and spine while the geometry of water becomes strongest in the limbs.

Thank you for the link. Crystal symmetry and cymatic symmetry are based on the same laws.

Richard

On Jun 23, 2011, at 12:04 AM, Doc Stars wrote:

Reading the text diligently and am skipping about various sections....

Something came to mind here, and wanted to ask your thoughts on this if I may

regarding pages 151 to 153

Would you say that the Super Tonic, Partial 9 is analogous in a concrete way to the "C-Axis" of a crystal?

See ;

http://www.tulane.edu/~sanelson/images/int1axis.gif

http://www.tulane.edu/~sanelson/eens211/axial_ratios_paramaters_miller_indices.htm